They are the three candidates for mayor of Los Angeles that few people have heard of in the March 5 election.
For Jay Draiman, Norton Sandler and Addie Miller, with little funding and no natural base of support that elected officials enjoy, they are campaigning with the passion of true believers that they have a better way to lead the city.
Most of the attention in the election has gone to Controller Wendy Greuel, City Council members Eric Garcetti and Jan Perry, attorney Kevin James and high tech executive Emanuel Pleitez - each of whom has raised at least $150,000 to qualify for matching funds.
Draiman, 63, who lives in Northridge and is an energy consultant, said he has the experience in the business world that can solve the city's problems even as he recognizes the difficulty of his task.
"I don't know if someone like me has a chance against the political machine of Los Angeles," said Draiman, who moved to Los Angeles eight years ago so he and his wife could be with their son, David, who is the vocalist in the band, "Disturbed."
Draiman has been active in the Northridge East Neighborhood Council and served on its executive board.
He said he does not believe officials have taken advantage of the natural resources of the city.
"This can be a beautiful thriving city like it was," Draiman said. "The problem is I don't think people are listening."
Draiman said the main problem facing the city is economics and he would concentrate on that if elected.
"I think we need to get everyone to sit down, put all the cards on the table and see how we can work it out and come to a compromise to work this out," Draiman said.
Draiman has a website, yjdraiman.org.
Sandler, 67, a factory worker registered with the Socialist Worker Party, said he would also concentrate on the city budget.
"First of all, if I'm elected mayor, the first thing I would do is marshal everything in the city and put people back to work," Sandler said.
"We would set an example by hiring and see how that develops. By doing this in Los Angeles, you set an immediate example for the county, neighboring cities and the state."
Sandler did not say how he would fund the program, other than to say he is opposed to issuing new bonds.
"I think we can put pressure on the state and we will find the money," Sandler said.
Sandler said he is not accepting contributions and is angry that he and the other candidates have been excluded from the campaign forums being held around the city.
"I think if people heard us debating the leading candidates, we would have more of a campaign," Sandler said, adding he believes he has talked with some 10,000 people as part of his campaign.
"Our campaign calls for working people to mobilize, to take political power and put an end to the dictatorship of capital that we live under today," Sandler said.
Sandler does not have a website, but said he can be contacted at his email address at: firstname.lastname@example.org
Miller, 63, who has worked for the county of Los Angeles and the federal government, said her priority is improving the city's infrastructure.
"I am running to implement the will of the people and what I believe is not being implemented," Miller said.
"People are angry because they vote for something and it doesn't get done."
Miller ran for mayor in 2005 and she said that race gave her experience on what is involved in a campaign.
Miller said she is not accepting donations because she does not want to be beholden to any interests, and she recognizes how difficult it is for people to contribute.
"People are hurting," Miller said. "Many have lost their job. Some people have lost their homes. I don't think it would be right to ask them for money for a campaign."
Miller has a website, addiemiller.us.